tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8190993.post113254376356101421..comments2023-07-29T10:17:01.162-05:00Comments on UAB choirs: Treating Students Like Customers...Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04359564177156577736noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8190993.post-1132691617642413992005-11-22T14:33:00.000-06:002005-11-22T14:33:00.000-06:00ditto, MaryBeth! ditto.I miss ovens :( no browni...ditto, MaryBeth! ditto.<BR/><BR/>I miss ovens :( no brownies, no cakes, no cookies, no pies...<BR/><BR/>hey, quit laughing. what else are ovens good for?Katie Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13253876207633628057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8190993.post-1132596668220096252005-11-21T12:11:00.000-06:002005-11-21T12:11:00.000-06:00While I find that the idea of searching for a lect...While I find that the idea of searching for a lecture online and diciplining myself to learn from a grainy video of a professor terrifying, even more frightening are the implications if such a "coursecast" system was fully implimented. If everyone but the English Dept (who for obvious reasons, can't) turns to the Scantron to test their students, what becomes of the faculty? All we would need, after recording each lecture of each professor, is someone to collect scantrons on test days and feed them through the machine. A dead man could teach chemistry.<BR/>There is something fundamentally wrong with a system that would even more encourage college students to never leave their dorm room. This online lecture idea could even let people stay home while "attending" a school 200 miles away.<BR/>BAD IDEA.Katie Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13253876207633628057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8190993.post-1132546023997121852005-11-20T22:07:00.000-06:002005-11-20T22:07:00.000-06:00And, the picture you posted is evident of my point...And, the picture you posted is evident of my point. The students in that picture have been trained to discipline themselves, to focus, to hear, to take notes, etc. I would posit that, regardless of the quality of the lecture given by the woman in the picture, that the majority of the students in the picture are learning. Assuming they have the desire to learn.Ryan Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06969642815190865789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8190993.post-1132545633020058712005-11-20T22:00:00.000-06:002005-11-20T22:00:00.000-06:00I respectfully, but unreservedly disagree with Mr....I respectfully, but unreservedly disagree with Mr. Shank. The problem isn't with lectures, it is with students' lack of mental discipline to focus, consider and wrestle with presented material, and make mental application of that material during lectures. It has to do with the will of the student to learn. And, that is no different with the "learning by doing" education model, because I've encountered plenty of students who will "refuse" to learn by "doing," by their lack of enthusiasm, half-hearted efforts, etc. If students want to learn, are WHOLE-HEARTEDLY committed to bettering themselves by education, and who take classroom teaching that may be be difficult as a potentially beneficial path along their pursuit for academic excellence, then they will learn whether it is in a lecture setting or "hands-on" setting.<BR/><BR/>So let it be written, so let it be done!Ryan Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06969642815190865789noreply@blogger.com